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Robust McManlyPants
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(6/13/02 11:59:36 pm)
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 Ah, Sweden!
In honor of her proud Svedish heritage, I give you a translation.
Loostruoos heur su fery pele-a -- cuul, leeqooid seelfer, by zee verm teent ooff guld unsoolleeed -- speells unbuoond in a reeppling cescede-a ooff muunleet tresses oofer her shuoolders und beck, pest thet seenoouoos leene-a ooff veeest und heeps. Streyeeng coorls ooff ergent hooe-a ceress und in breeghtness idge-a a fece-a ell steep plunes und ungles, a uneeun ooff feetoores but feenebuned und strung. Heegh, prumeenent cheekbunes, deffyeeng a clesseecelly oofel muld, deffeene-a its cherecter -- fefuooreeng ixuteecelly hundsume-a rezeer thun merely beooteeffool -- und a streeeght nuse-a, a sensooel muoot by smeeles rerely tuooched und zee sherp slunt frum furmly set jev tu nerroo cheen cumplete-a zee imege-a. Cunspeecioously derk, slender broos und a loosh, leeghtly upsvept freenge-a ooff lengthy leshes freme-a sleeghtly teelted iyes, feebrunt indeegu a mere-a shede-a evey frum leeghtless ibun, boot du nut oobscoore-a zee undoonteble-a buldness ooff her geze-a. Oor zee meelstrum ooff imushuns thet smulders joost beneet zee inky soorffece-a, yet rerely refflects upun her dooskeely geelded cuoontenunce-a. Sleekly tuned -- a smuut, pleesunt blend ooff sufft, femeenine-a coorfes und lung, leun mooscles -- her budy heents et vury strengt, cumpleemented by zee leezeesume-a grece-a und flooency vheech her ifery mufe-a betreys. Thuoogh, seldum it is thet she-a eppeers trooly et iese-a, und yet zeere-a is ebuoot her nut a trece-a ooff shyness oor feer. Feeercly pruood, hooghty ifee, her demeunuoor, mure-a thun sooggesteeng zee deffeeuntly veellffool deespusishun ooff oone-a vhu, stoobburnly unyeeelding, vuoold breek beffure-a she-a ifer bends. Bork bork bork!
Imereldeene-a seelk ooff a derk hooe-a greces her slenderly coorfeceuoos furm -- edmurebly vell set ooffff by zee coot ooff zee shurt, feetted cuet und zee nerroo, fur reeding deefided skurt -- und zee reech noounce-a ooff greee cumpleements zee cuntrest ooff leeght und derk vheech she-a herselff imbudeees in zee culuoor ooff her heur und iyes, und in zee doosky tune-a ooff her skeen. Boottuns ooff terneeshed seelfer, a roo ooff zeem frum reeght shuoolder tu zee germent's ind, seel zee febreec teeght ebuoot her, zee sufft svell ooff her busum in a testeffoolly ilegunt munner eccentooeted, und bleck und ergent tveene-a tugezeer in lefeesh imbrueederies upun zee brued cooffffs thet feenish ooffff zee sleefes, es vell es upun zee steeffff und cheen-heegh culler, a nerroo F in frunt lefft oopee es iff tu efueed a tuu streect eppeerunce-a. Hooggeeng cluse-a tu zee infeeting coorfe-a ooff nerroo veeest sufftly flereeng intu veeder, pleesuntly ruoonded heeps, zeen felleeng in shelloo fulds ebuoot vell-tuned legs tu joost ebufe-a her unkles, zee skurt fletters her leezee und femeenine-a feegoore-a, thuoogh remeeens precteecel steell. Buuts ooff soopple-a, ibun leezeer ere-a refeeled beloo zee hemleene-a, und a metcheeng belt is vurn es vell; toocked in beheend it a sheeted kneeffe-a veet a rezeer pleeen hundle-a und a peur ooff glufes ooff sufft, bleck skeen. Cumpleteeng her ooootffeet is a derk, knee-a-lengt cluek, treemmed veet foor elung huud und idges. Bork bork bork!
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I love the encheferizer.
Borkingly,
Lars -- I mean, Robust.
Edited by: Robust McManlyPants at: 6/14/02 12:01:20 am
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Gaetan Peverel
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(6/14/02 12:06:20 am)
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Re: Ah, Sweden!
BORK BORK BORK!
Bwahahaha. God, Robust, I've just laughed so hard I need stitches. I hate you.
Pev
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FamaVolat
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(6/14/02 1:18:16 am)
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 Re: Ah, Sweden!
GAH! Now you've done it! You've melded the Swedish Chef with Nym!
...I only fear what you might do next.
~FV
...scarred for life.
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Nobodys First Choice
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(6/14/02 1:25:07 am)
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Re: Ah, Sweden!
Okay, being ... like, 1/16th Swedish, I'd be offended....
But I grew up watching the muppet show, and God dammit I almost wet myself reading that post. Bless you, and the muppet you rode in on.
NFC - Loves Robust McManly Pants 4-Evr.... well, for a little while, anyway.
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Nymeria
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(6/14/02 7:26:36 am)
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Re: Lurking...
Rosencrantz is Dead,
Of course most of it is myths. Most reputations are. But I have an American here who agrees with most of my opinions on it. And he too has experience of both systems.
Astraether,
I just have to wonder -- isn't it exhausting, Nymeria, to keep responding?
Beats troubleshooting coding and redesigning a website. ;) Unfortunately (for the rest of the posters here), the thread showed up just as I'd turned into my thesis somewhat early and ended up with a few weeks of nothing much to do before going on vacation.
I just have to wonder -- isn't it exhausting, Nymeria, to keep responding?
Well, I don't do most of the job. I get a lot of help from the wonderful guys and gals around here when it comes to filling this thread up. Watching the football and typing at the same time works pretty well.
But I guess I am glued to the computer right now, since the monsoon season appears to have hit Sweden.
Can't we get some more of those, please? I miss the good ol' days when the descs posted here were really bad and not just ostentatious, overdone, and flowery.
Afraid I can't help you there, I have a distinct shortage of gravity-defying breasts. How about my horse descs? They're actually about as long as one of my regular descs. Well, minus the clothing. But, darn, I guess they won't do since I didn't describe the vital bits. ;)
Zarkon Malere,
Um. If half the people that you roleplay with say that your desc is too damned long, then that is too many. Hell, if 3 people out of 20 say that your desc is too long, then that means that a good percentage of the people you RP with aren't reading your desc. Thus, it's wasted on them. If it's 50 percent...then there's a definite problem, and it ain't with them.
Short and sweet: I disagree. As noted, I do tend to provide alternatives, when the code allows for it.
Again, remember that there is no guarantee that your target audience (the people you RP with) are both 1) Over the age of 18 and presumably of a Grade 12 reading level and 2) Native English speakers who also have over a Grade 12 reading level. Again, your personal preferences on what you like to read don't matter. You're writing this description so that people know what they're looking at. If they have problems reading it, then you've failed. Period.
I am sorry, but I will not try to cater to the lowest common denominator. If a few people can't read my desc, it is not a problem.
See the above. See EVERYTHING everyone else has written. What's wrong with it is simply that people don't like it. That's all that's really important. If you like long and flowery descs, that's fine. Good for you. Don't presume to subject it upon the rest of the world, though. Make a shorter desc, and put things on +views, as someone suggested. Make it where people can handle it in shorter, bite-sized segments, because that way they might actually READ it.
Your start off okay. I am fine with a difference of opinion. I don't _care_ if people don't like it. But ... uh ... 'subject it upon the rest of the world'. Come on. Looking once at a long desc isn't a traumatic experience.
And if it is, you need to seek help.
I know a number of people, smart people, who won't read Robert Jordan for one reason: The size of the books. The same goes for your descs.
A lot of people, however, do read him. Others, like me, stopped reading him because he got down-right boring.
Gaetan Peverel,
And we are making valid points. You're just too convinced of your own infallibility to concede that any of us may have a point.
Yes, some valid points. I acknowledged those. The rest you can stick where they belong. Your opinions aren't exactly worth more than mine, or anyone elses. Despite the fact that you're the next David Eddings.
I really couldn't care less about how long you have MUSHed, how many languages you speak or that you're a published writer. It means ... uhmm ... nothing to me.
You're just a typical American. ;)
EndlessPossibilities,
And that book deals with MUSHing, I presume?
I really don't know how many times I have to say that a @desc is about the only thing I'd write like this.
Ice Cream Emperor,
See, you seem to be under the misapprehension that what you are really having here is dozens and dozens of totally isolated conversations.
Now, I really don't want to be too rude here ... but that is pretty funny. I seem to recall someone or other going on and on about how the posters here are not a mob, they're individuals?
Yes, I am speaking to each and everyone that I reply to as an individual, as far as the tone of my reply is concerned. It is fairest that way.
Your replies, plural, in general, have reached new and unheralded levels of arrogance and insulting dismissiveness. Your attitude, in general, is extremely pretentious and extremely 'superior.' All your friends like your desc, and that's why you RP with them and not everyone else who evidently doesn't RP like you'd want...
Actually, all of my friends probably do not like it. I don't know quite what they think, in fact. Most of the people who have commented have not been 'friends'. My friends and I don't tend to go around cooing over each other's descs.
Is it really that hard to understand that, of the people who are likely to comment on your desc, an enormously disproportionate number of them are going to do so because they like it?
No, of course that is true. However, out of 100 people, I'd guess that well over half don't care either way, and the rest are pretty evenly split between liking or disliking it.
This idea that your desc is somehow homogenous with your RP preferences is just really... weird. That RP preferences could be somehow inseperable with style -- to the point that you could say of someone, based off their desc, that they don't prefer the same kind of RP as you -- strikes me as remarkably narrow-minded.
No, of course it doesn't match up perfectly. But if someone has a desc with half of the words misspelled, you can probably bet on half of the contents of their poses being misspelled too. And if someone has a three-line desc, the chance is good their poses wont be much over a line.
Now that you've apparently admitted that your desc is flowery and over-exaggerated, what sort of RP is it you claim this is intrinsically linked with? I assume not flowery and over-exaggerated RP?
I never claimed such a link. I said right off that I do not pose the way that I desc. Well, okay, I do get long-winded at times (but no 35 lines), and long sentences do show up, but I don't tend to pose in a lot of metaphors.
Again, neither of these are more or less suited by flowery, over-exaggerated writing. Unless the character is similarly over-exaggerated, in which case you are in dangerous territory -- because any character -as- over-exaggerated as that desc's writing is over-written is edging beyond the pale of caricature, and presumably you don't play caricatures.
Well, I do have to disagree about whether the writing style serves the intended purpose. Is there a better style? Well, probably. There tends to be. Is that what I want to do? No.
And no, my characters are not as exaggerated as my descs, but they're fairly exaggerated in some ways.
So obviously, a balance between these two extremes would make sense -- except that, apparently, you have no interest in finding a balance. You seem to think that one extreme actually represents a noticeably -different- style of RP or a different result, and that these are tied to actual motives
No, here two things appear to have been mixed up. There have been challenges to my choice of including things beyond the purely physical aspects of the description. _That_ choice I explain by saying that I do consider it a different style, but one which is valid for @descs.
I do not think that the choice to write a flowery and exaggerated desc has anything to do with style of RP or with me wanting a different result from the desc. It is just how I like to desc. And I don't think it is inappropriate.
The second answer is just that, at least in this desc, I see more fumbling with language than playing with it; or perhaps just misguided playing with it. It's certainly not full of fantastic metaphors that strike the fancy upside the head -- the closest I can come to finding 'play' seems to be in your consistent abuse of sentence structure. It's sort of like playing with a dog by breaking its legs.
Well ... I think it is inevitable that playing leads to some fumbling. I know I stretch a bit beyond what I can handle at times. But I don't think a @desc is a bad place for it. I know the @desc isn't _that_ incomprehensible, and at best the English language picked up a few light bruises along the way.
To be honest, I am always looking to improve my descs, _while keeping to my chosen style_. I found a few good ways around the structure problems pointed out, and I believe I have fixed those. It is still, however, flowery and exaggerated. But that means that flowery and exaggerated can be done pretty flawlessly.
Now, I wont trust grammar checkers in word processors as far as Gaetan Peveral appears to do, but when checking over my other descs with it, the only things that came up were a few long sentences. I don't know what kind of value to place on that, but since it did work on other pieces of text, it seems like it would have caught most serious fumblings.
Finally, I know I skipped over sections of your post, but it seemed unnecessary to comment on each and every bit, as I do agree with a lot of your general points on style and purpose. But I didn't want you to think I am ignoring it.
SurrealityVortex,
Inability to admit mistakes? No, I noted that it could have been more clearly put. In short, I admitted that I made a small mistake as far as the choice of word went.
But did I make a factual mistake regarding who was working for Disney? No.
Nice try, Goofy.
FamaVolat,
While you do manage to employ a high level of vocabulary in the description, your misspelling and maladroitness convey rather than a high intelligence, a person who feels insecure about herself enough that she wishes to pretend to have such instead.
Three misspellings, no? Another desc nazi, apparently.
Were I to encounter this character in game, I would nod, smile, then promptly find someone else to roleplay with instead. Not because of misspellings, mind you, but because I personally don't enjoy being smashed over the head with a dictionary while pursuing entertainment for the evening.
Well, that is your prerogative, isn't it?
For a while you did indeed manage to appear less PHBish than warming to a progressive debate. I commend you on that. But as the arguments of many respected, highly intelligent, experienced gamers were presented, you failed to offer viable points of reply in lieu of presenting personal attacks to them, their country of origins, their education they have received, their place of work, and this forum in general.
Well, if you actually read all the posts, you'd notice that I didn't go on the offensive against such utter idiots as Gaetan Peverel before he started using pretty darn loaded language and pulling in irrelevant RL experiences.
Then, probably the most amusing in my perspective, was that when you were called to the mat for these attacks, your response was 'No, I didn't say that... I -meant- this.'
I have absolutely no idea what you're babbling about, actually. Have I tried to clarify points at times? Obviously, seeing how many purposeful misunderstandings are thrown about here.
Oh, and the man I referred to in the first paragraph? Samuel Clemens, a.k.a. Mark Twain. Perhaps one of the highest respected authors/commentators on the human species in modern history. And he was an uneducated American, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Pretty boring writer, in my experience. But, actually, I couldn't care less about any writer's nationality. I don't tend to debate things with them, after all.
Anyhow, if I were paid to MUSH and to write @descs ... well, I suspect I'd write rather differently then. I'd have a paying audience, after all.
But as long as I don't, I write primarily for myself.
(I really couldn't leave without expressing something more on the level of utter distaste I feel towards her, could I? I'm only human. [;)] )
No wonder I prefer seals.
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 The NinjaKitten 
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Seals?
Quoth Numbarea:Quote:
No wonder I prefer seals.
I'm fairly certain that's illegal, as well as Just Plain Wrong.
Someone should alert the SPCA.
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Perverted, Hell-Bound Leprechaun. Edited by: The NinjaKitten at: 6/14/02 7:54:40 am
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